Anxiety and stigmatization are they related?

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Mukukamm30 wrote:
> There may be different reasons as to why a person may not seek early
> treatment. It may be that they are completely unaware of the situation or
> they may be aware and have just decided to brush it off as part of an
> everyday ordeal or they may fear stigmatization from their peers in case of
> men.

It's alarming to think of the impact stigmatization might have on a person. Ignoring to get a medical check-up is equally undeniably fatal. However, I believe if stigmatization was addressed, more people would be willing to openly speak about their problems.
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I think anxiety and stigmatization go hand in hand and relate perfectly! When you face stigmatization you become anxious and the level of stress increase tremendously!! They all originate from the mind and might be body destructive.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > > After sharing my thoughts with a few friends about stigmatization and
> > > anxiety, I discovered that Gustavo addresses this issue. As an example, if
> > > you were stigmatized for any reason, you'd get stressed and anxious.
> > > Conversely, if you were anxious about whether you'll face stigmatization,
> > > you'd get stressed. This means that the two are intertwined.
> >
> > It depends if you are stressful, you may or may not be stigmatized by it. Many
> people
> > express their stress by lashing out at others. It depends on the person and the
> > sitution in which stress builds up.
>
> Stigmatization mostly comes up when a person is trying to find help. Their behaviors
> may influence others to treat them differently.

Yes, anxiety may or may not play a role depending on the extent of it. Stigma caused by anxiety maybe only when te anxiety level is too high.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > > Sgpope01 wrote:
> > > > I think it can be several things. I think people believe that we are
> > > > supposed to be living in this high stress world and not understanding
> when
> > > > it has become a dangerous disorder. I also believe there is a stigma
> around
> > > > it. From my own experience, I was embarrassed to come out about my
> anxiety
> > > > and depression. I didn’t want to seem weak or out of control. I would
> lie
> > > > on the tests my general doctor would give me yearly about
> > > > depression/anxiety. I wanted everyone to believe I was “ok”. Society
> can
> > > > look down on mental health and that was ingrained in me at an early
> age. I
> > > > believe there is definitely stigma for some people.
> > >
> > > So true, the first step to eliminating stress and anxiety is acceptance.
> After
> > which
> > > the thought of being stigmatized for your condition is eliminated.
> >
> > Yes, but there are different types of acceptance. You may accept that you have a
> > problem but it does not necessarily mean that you are ready to receive
> treatment.
> > Some believe that many treatments do not work best for them and many believe
> cannot
> > particularly trust others. So it is a difficult situation.
>
> It's easier going through stressful moments when you can talk about them. The other
> stressful part comes in while trying to find a confidant. It is for this reason that
> books are more comforting.

Yes true but nothing beats a person who can listen to all your worries without being judgemental. I find that the best form to relieve anxiety is talking about it. If that seems impossible writing it down.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Sou Hi wrote:
> > > I think anxiety is part of the reason, but it depends. Like someone who is
> > > bullied will have two choices: To brace themselves and overcome the
> > > bullies, or to be stressed out over time and slowly think of themselves as
> > > worthless, like how the bullies label them. So I suppose it's important to
> > > have someone you can talk to. That way it will ease your heart and prevent
> > > further pressure.
> >
> > Yeah, definitely having a person who is going to listen o your problems without
> > judging them is a great boon to have. It takes a great load off the shoulder of
> the
> > person and helps in gaing constructive thoughts and plays a important factor to
> > prevet stress from getting piled up.
>
> Self-worth plays a big role in how we respect ourselves. Someone who carries
> themselves highly is comparatively bold and able to cope with stigmatization at
> certain levels.

Yes, being confident in yourself generally will make you more optimistic and help you deal with the stigma. But is not something that is absolute. It also depends on the time period involved. Long term stigmatization will hurt a confident person too.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > > Sgpope01 wrote:
> > > > I think it can be several things. I think people believe that we are
> > > > supposed to be living in this high stress world and not understanding
> when
> > > > it has become a dangerous disorder. I also believe there is a stigma
> around
> > > > it. From my own experience, I was embarrassed to come out about my
> anxiety
> > > > and depression. I didn’t want to seem weak or out of control. I would
> lie
> > > > on the tests my general doctor would give me yearly about
> > > > depression/anxiety. I wanted everyone to believe I was “ok”. Society
> can
> > > > look down on mental health and that was ingrained in me at an early
> age. I
> > > > believe there is definitely stigma for some people.
> > >
> > > So true, the first step to eliminating stress and anxiety is acceptance.
> After
> > which
> > > the thought of being stigmatized for your condition is eliminated.
> >
> > Yes, but there are different types of acceptance. You may accept that you have a
> > problem but it does not necessarily mean that you are ready to receive
> treatment.
> > Some believe that many treatments do not work best for them and many believe
> cannot
> > particularly trust others. So it is a difficult situation.
>
> I think the reason Kinrys insists on trying natural methods first, is because of
> these difficulties. You become more aware of your emotions and weaknesses as you
> spend time in nature. Eventually, you'll admit there's a problem when it arises. To
> avoid stigmatization, your attitude can be a source of hope and pity from others.

Yeah but I do not think most people enjoy being pitied to cope from stigmatization. It generally affects a person negatively and can be bad for his state of mind.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Susmita Biswas wrote:
> > > I agree with the author that people often don't know that they have this
> > > problem. I think they should understand it first that they are suffering
> > > from anxiety. The author provided all the small signs. People should keep
> > > them in mind.
> >
> > Yes, once you start neglecting things it can be ugly in the wrong run. What is
> > required in these cases is awareness. Someone must be able to make you aware of
> the
> > things going on and guide you in the proper way.
>
> The person being guided must also be willing to listen and embrace the process. The
> reason stigmatization is becoming rampant is that the majority of individuals aren't
> willing to cope with their situation. They end up rebelling against their condition,
> which gives a negative outlook on them.

One way of dealing with stigmatization is not being overly anxious about it. It also depends on the extent to which you are stigmatized. Sometimes rebelling against it may not be a good option.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > gatuguta2030 wrote:
> > > Yes. Anxiety is stigmatized. Society plays a big role in stigmatizing
> > > people suffering from stress and anxiety. This makes people not to open up
> > > on what they are experiencing.
> >
> > Yes and if this keeps on accumulating the person may suffer from not only
> serious
> > anxiety-related issues but they would also lose confidence in themselves or what
> they
> > are. So a major answer to this problem is in a word this book. it will help see
> the
> > problem and solutions and of the numerous methods mentioned one must be
> effective.
>
> Sure, stigmatization and anxiety may lead to other chronic conditions like
> depression. It is, therefore, necessary to seek assistance whenever possible.

Yes, stigmatization is a source of concern in today's society. You must be able to deal with the effects it causes on your mental state or you can affect yourself badly.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Mukukamm30 wrote:
> > There may be different reasons as to why a person may not seek early
> > treatment. It may be that they are completely unaware of the situation or
> > they may be aware and have just decided to brush it off as part of an
> > everyday ordeal or they may fear stigmatization from their peers in case of
> > men.
>
> It's alarming to think of the impact stigmatization might have on a person. Ignoring
> to get a medical check-up is equally undeniably fatal. However, I believe if
> stigmatization was addressed, more people would be willing to openly speak about
> their problems.

Yes, that is a major problem. People not willing to accept mental illness as a major source of concern is really frightening in today's world where there is a major source of depression present, namely the internet. In this day and age considering to refuse treatment for stigmatization is really dangerous for an individual.
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Joseph WK wrote:
> Yes. Anxiety is related to stigmatization. There are a number of times I
> have heard someone dismiss anxiety as a condition for privileged people.
> Which means someone from difficult backdrounds won't get the necessary help

While anxiety may be universal, the condition of anxiety as prescribed by a doctor is definitely only for the privileged. Most people both fear the stigma of a mental condition and cannot afford the expense of a psychologist. As a result they will not share their condition with anyone until it becomes debilitating.
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I think both stigma and a lack of general information is the cause. A lot of people don't really know that there's a difference between being a nervous person and having an anxiety disorder. Most countries don't have proper mental health services either and poverty can be another reason people can't reach out. But there is definitely stigma, especially among men, when it comes to any mental illness, it is such a shame.
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evraealtana wrote:
> I think that is likely part of it. Another part of it may be that people
> are stressed for so long that anxiety starts to feel normal, and therefore
> they never think that maybe their "normal" isn't actually normal
> after all. Maybe getting help is the silver lining after a breakdown
> following years of accumulated stress, during which time the patient didn't
> realize the load was getting slightly heavier with every passing day.
>
I agree. I don't think society in general stigmatizes anxiety that much, if only because most of have it and function in spite of it.
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IchbineinBerliner wrote:
> evraealtana wrote:
> > I think that is likely part of it. Another part of it may be that people
> > are stressed for so long that anxiety starts to feel normal, and therefore
> > they never think that maybe their "normal" isn't actually normal
> > after all. Maybe getting help is the silver lining after a breakdown
> > following years of accumulated stress, during which time the patient didn't
> > realize the load was getting slightly heavier with every passing day.
> >
> I agree. I don't think society in general stigmatizes anxiety that much, if only
> because most of have it and function in spite of it.

Yes, as I can understand if stigmatization has a firm reason. But anxiety related issues are fairly common in today's society and I gererally do not notice stigma against it.
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RachelEmmanuel wrote:
> Joseph WK wrote:
> > Yes. Anxiety is related to stigmatization. There are a number of times I
> > have heard someone dismiss anxiety as a condition for privileged people.
> > Which means someone from difficult backdrounds won't get the necessary help
>
> While anxiety may be universal, the condition of anxiety as prescribed by a doctor is
> definitely only for the privileged. Most people both fear the stigma of a mental
> condition and cannot afford the expense of a psychologist. As a result they will not
> share their condition with anyone until it becomes debilitating.

Yes, and that will make the situation worse. In these cases, the presence of someone the patient can trust is really important. Talking about these issues with that person can also help in getting anxiety reduced.
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Joseph WK wrote:
> Yes. Anxiety is related to stigmatization. There are a number of times I
> have heard someone dismiss anxiety as a condition for privileged people.
> Which means someone from difficult backdrounds won't get the necessary help
You make such an excellent point. Anxiety is sometimes considered as a problem that only people with time and without any chores have. Up until I was 16 I considered my anxiety to be something dumb and that I felt because I was bored or because I craved attention, it is a very stigmatised diagnosis.
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