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Yes. Very practical and easy to do without outside help, especially for milde cases
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Howlan wrote:
> NetMassimo wrote:
> > I say yes, it's a practical guide as you get the information you need to
> > know when you can take a remedy on your own, when you need to consult your
> > doctor, when you could suffer from side-effects, and so on.
>
> Especially when you cannot relate to the causes of your stress professional help is
> always necessary before medication.


Self-assesment is good, but not always. Sometimes you cannot find the cause for your stress, and sometimes you are not ready to accept it. In such situations you should definitely go for professional help, rather than trying to find a solution from this book on your own
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Dominik_G wrote:
> Sushan wrote:
> > Dominik_G wrote:
> > > I do believe the book provides good practical advice. For sure, severe
> > > cases of anxiety require professional assistance, however, I find that the
> > > methods and techniques in the book are useful and completely applicable in
> > > everyday life.
> >
> > Yes, the book provides practical methods to relieve stress of day-to-day life.
> But
> > the problem occurs when someone tries to self-judge the severity of his/her
> anxiety.
> > Not many are ready to accept that they suffer from severe stress. So they will
> > diagnose themselves as having mild stress and try to relieve it by using the
> kinds of
> > methods which the book discusses about. And the condition will only be worsened
>
> Yes, I totally see your point. I believe, however, that trying the methods the book
> offers will not worsen someone's condition. They just might not work as well as for
> someone with lower levels of stress/anxiety. (Which, for sure, might be a
> discouraging and disappointing experience for the person.) If this is the case, they
> should probably seek professional help. And I don't necessarily mean medication.
> Therapy might work as well.

The methods in the book not working for someone means he/she is in a severe level of stress. Spending time, trying to find a help from this book will give them no result, but with the time their situation can get worsened
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Kevivas03 wrote:
> I believe that the techniques prescribed can be applied without direct
> supervison from a trained person.The authors who are experts in this field
> would never risk peoples' lives by asking them to apply methods that can be
> lead to dire consequences.

I think you should not take medications without proper medical guidance. Because most medications are bound to cause hormonal changes that need to be taken care of. Natural remedies can try out but apart for that professional help will maximize your efforts with minimal side-effects.
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Sushan wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > David_Kariuki wrote:
> > > Sushan wrote:
> > > > This is a practical guide to relieve anxiety and stress, by two
> authors who
> > > > are renowned as well as experienced in the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Yet, this is a book to read and understand by the reader him/herself,
> and
> > > > then to apply its content to get relieved from his/her anxiety and
> stress.
> > > >
> > > > To what extent this practice is practical? Without a proper assessment
> and
> > > > a guidance from a trained personnel, will it deliver the expected
> results?
> > > > Or will it worsen the issue?
> > > I would say, its a delicate balance. Delicate in the sense that there are
> > certain
> > > remedies that are a bit complex and require proper handling and some
> remedies
> > that
> > > can be used effortlessly without much guidance. In my opinion Given the
> great
> > > importance of one's mental health, the book should be mostly for reference.
> >
> > Yeah, this book should act more like a first aid kit before the actual treatment
> > begins.
>
> I can agree with the idea of this book acting as a first aid kit. It will reduce the
> immediate threat and it will be a support to the proper therapeutic act which will
> come next. And also as you cannot go for a long time alone with first aid, you cannot
> treat yourself forever, only with this book. So, yes, what this book offers is more
> like a first aid kit than an actual treatment

Yes, so as a practical guide this book plays a great role in dealing with stress. Especially in cases of emergency when the medical help is difficult at the current moment.
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This book will definitely help you, everything that presents a helpful tool will help you if you want it to help you. Otherwise, the most appreciated doctor won't be able to help.
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Chali wrote:
> Yes. Very practical and easy to do without outside help, especially for
> milde cases

Gustavo made sure the book was good enough. You can practice the remedies daily. It's a perfect fit.
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Sushan wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > NetMassimo wrote:
> > > I say yes, it's a practical guide as you get the information you need to
> > > know when you can take a remedy on your own, when you need to consult your
> > > doctor, when you could suffer from side-effects, and so on.
> >
> > Especially when you cannot relate to the causes of your stress professional help
> is
> > always necessary before medication.
>
>
> Self-assesment is good, but not always. Sometimes you cannot find the cause for your
> stress, and sometimes you are not ready to accept it. In such situations you should
> definitely go for professional help, rather than trying to find a solution from this
> book on your own

Even so, using this book restores your self-awareness. And since Kinrys gives the signs to look out for, you can easily notice when stress and anxiety begin to build up. Such early measures can prevent the need of seeing a professional.
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I feel that the advice is practical. However, to effectively learn to utilize activities such as biofeedback, I think that guidance from a trained professional is necessary.
Personally, I found biofeedback to be more effective in dealing with my anxiety than pharmaceutical medications, and it doesn't run the risk of negative side effects or dependence.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Chali wrote:
> > Yes. Very practical and easy to do without outside help, especially for
> > milde cases
>
> Gustavo made sure the book was good enough. You can practice the remedies daily. It's
> a perfect fit.

It is definitely a good guide for the conscious reader. The natural remedies are well represented and a step by step guide of how to use them is depicted. All-natural remedies are well represented except perhaps diet monitoring which if you need to implement, you need proper guidance.
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Tonika632 wrote:
> This book will definitely help you, everything that presents a helpful tool
> will help you if you want it to help you. Otherwise, the most appreciated
> doctor won't be able to help.

Yes, definitely. This book is well enough to guide you to pull through in cases of low stress or in case of an emergency. It is quite well written so that you can go by in times before you can go for consultation.
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ciecheesemeister wrote:
> I feel that the advice is practical. However, to effectively learn to
> utilize activities such as biofeedback, I think that guidance from a
> trained professional is necessary.
> Personally, I found biofeedback to be more effective in dealing with my
> anxiety than pharmaceutical medications, and it doesn't run the risk of
> negative side effects or dependence.

Yeah, but I think biofeedback to quite difficult to implement on your own. Placing electrodes on your scalp for neurofeedback without prior experience seems dangerous to implement in the absence of a professional.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Sushan wrote:
> > Howlan wrote:
> > > NetMassimo wrote:
> > > > I say yes, it's a practical guide as you get the information you need
> to
> > > > know when you can take a remedy on your own, when you need to consult
> your
> > > > doctor, when you could suffer from side-effects, and so on.
> > >
> > > Especially when you cannot relate to the causes of your stress professional
> help
> > is
> > > always necessary before medication.
> >
> >
> > Self-assesment is good, but not always. Sometimes you cannot find the cause for
> your
> > stress, and sometimes you are not ready to accept it. In such situations you
> should
> > definitely go for professional help, rather than trying to find a solution from
> this
> > book on your own
>
> Even so, using this book restores your self-awareness. And since Kinrys gives the
> signs to look out for, you can easily notice when stress and anxiety begin to build
> up. Such early measures can prevent the need of seeing a professional.

Yes, you need to seek professional help if natural remedies mentioned in the book are not able to help you release those stress levels. If you find them not working the way you wanted them to, professional guidance is required.
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I believe the guidance given is practical and will benefit many. However, I think it’s always a good idea to partner with a professional, ie therapist if you feel your anxiety or stress isn’t manageable on your own. It’s always wonderful to have other support systems to help you work out which methods are most beneficial to you.
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NetMassimo wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > NetMassimo wrote:
> > > I say yes, it's a practical guide as you get the information you need to
> > > know when you can take a remedy on your own, when you need to consult your
> > > doctor, when you could suffer from side-effects, and so on.
> >
> > Especially when you cannot relate to the causes of your stress professional help
> is
> > always necessary before medication.
>
> Absolutely! Alleviating your symptoms is a short-term "patch", but if you
> want to solve your problem you need to go to its root cause. However, for a transient
> problem such as an exam, or any other important event, you might not need the
> professional help required for example by a person suffering from depression.

That is true. Different levels of issues need different levels of interventions. But the tricky part is identifying that level correctly, amd that will be done by a professional much accurately
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