Which side are you in?

Post by **Caroline Anne Richmond** » 15 Mar 2021, 13:37

I would be in group 3. I was taught as a child to believe in the BibLe completely without question, as a student and adult I learnt and worked in science and believe and trust in these concepts too. I like to think that there can be harmony between the two and having a scientific belief doesn’t have to take away your religious faith.

Maddie Atkinson · Post by **Maddie Atkinson** » 15 Mar 2021, 13:42

Shanaian wrote: ↑15 Mar 2021, 09:28 On the creation story its matter of one's faith. In most cases they have tried to prove it did not happen.

The Big Bang Theory - On current scientific thinking, the chemicals we are made of were cooked up in giant nuclear furnaces - stars - bigger than our sun. Because gravity is a weak force, these stars took thousands of millions of years to form and to make these elements. Then the stars exploded scattering the atoms into space. Objects near the edge of the universe are still moving away at nearly the speed of light today, so if that has been happening since the Big Bang, it's easy to see why the universe is now so enormous. Some of the scattered atoms eventually became human flesh and bone - our bodies are the ashes of long-dead stars. So it seems that if the universe was not ancient and vast, the atoms of our bodies would not have been made, which would stand the argument for insignificance on its head.

Creation is definitely a matter of one's faith agree.

Thing is, life, in its simplest form, began about 1 billion years after the Earth was formed, and the Earth didn't form until about 10 billion years after the beginning of the Universe. The perfect placement of earth in relation to the Sun to be able to have formed life is a chance that is nearly impossible to have happened, I guess we just got lucky - so this would make us significant. But the vastness of the universe is what makes us insignificant. It is bigger than we can possibly imagine and forever expanding. We do not know if there is any other life out there, and if there is, which is very likely, then what makes us so significant? Also, we can still hear the echoes of the Big Bang. Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation. I mean, we cannot hear it in the literal sense, but it is there. There is so much evidence to prove the Big Bang. In my opinion it is quite a convincing theory.

MarcellaM · Post by **MarcellaM** » 16 Mar 2021, 05:56

I belong to the second group. I completely believe in God and the creation along with the teachings that come with it. Science has since arisen and with my basic knowledge it completely contradicts God and the creation. Scientists come up with different theories and each of them tries to disregard the existence of God. Basing on the bible,one can clearly read and understand the story behind the origin of the solar system and life in particular.

Saint Bruno · Post by **Saint Bruno** » 16 Mar 2021, 13:53

I think I belong to the third group but with a little enhancements. My take is that God is the father of science. So which ever way He took to create the Universe could also include science. I think it's left for the scientists to recognize that God is even bigger than science.

TheMazeRunner · Post by **TheMazeRunner** » 17 Mar 2021, 04:37

I am a strong believer, but I would be in group 3. I think that creation is something that goes beyond our knowledge, but there are some things that could go both with science and God.

zainherb · Post by **zainherb** » 17 Mar 2021, 06:41

Sam Lauren wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 06:42 I think there's a fourth group: people who are on both sides and believe that there is just more to it than we can possibly know as humans.

I agree! I would be in this fourth group.
I agree with the bible and science to an extent.
I think they both are right to an extent. Beyond what they know, however, there are some things we just aren't supposed to know yet.

Mvictoria · Post by **Mvictoria** » 17 Mar 2021, 11:48

VernaVi wrote: ↑01 Mar 2021, 23:52 I would be in group three. I believe in the Bible as well as Science. I think they can and do go hand in hand, and that one proves the other because there have been so many proofs presented regarding the Bible by scientists over the years that exemplify the way this world is made, created, growing and evolving and prove out the Bible’s claims as well as its historical events over the many years.

I would also be in this group! What I've always believed is that one creation day was actually a period of time much longer than an Earth day. That said, Jesus said that everything in the Bible happened and is real and not a metaphor. If that's truly what he said, then we have to accept that science and the Bible don't match up and pick a side or we have to believe there was an error in translation.

cogitononsum · Post by **cogitononsum** » 18 Mar 2021, 01:38

I dunno, I would like to explore other religions and ideas apart from bible, which has become centric in conversations regarding religion and the beginning of time.

Deval Sodha · Post by **Deval Sodha** » 18 Mar 2021, 12:03

I will go with the third side and I strongly believe that facts presented in Bible and those given by great scientists are both correct and go hand in hand with one another.

Adriana Ortencio · Post by **Adriana Ortencio** » 19 Mar 2021, 00:46

I don't think that all humans can be divided into only these 3 groups regarding scientific views and views about creations and God. I also think that for each of this group, there is a counter group that exists specifically for this group, that being said, there could be at least 3 more groups that all humans feel they mostly agree with, but I would not say that any one person wholly believes and belongs to only one belief.

If I had to only choose from the above three groups to most agree with I would say that I choose group 3. I have two engineering degrees, have worked as a project engineer in safety and I think that there are appropriate times for science and the bible, while there are also situations where science and the bible also go hand-in-hand.

SarahJeanne17 · Post by **SarahJeanne17** » 19 Mar 2021, 09:52

I would say I mostly fit into group three. but I definitely don't think all humans can be divided into these three groups. People have so many different thoughts and spiritual beliefs and that's before you take their culture and religion into consideration. I think we all have such different beliefs that it's really hard to categorize us at all, to be honest. Personally, I like to believe in the idea of fate but I also like to believe that it's a constantly evolving fate, reliant on the decisions that we make every single day. I also find myself drawn to understanding other religions and cultures. I love discussing different beliefs with other people, as long as all involved can be respectful of one another.

María Andrea Fernández Sepúlveda · 19 Mar 2021, 19:52

I don't think its as easy to categorize humans. The human experience is incredibly multidimensional. I, for example, think that science and religion are separate things, and that the recent obsession of proving all things about faith with science is a useless endeavor. I get it is an intellectually stimulating one but there is so much we don't know both about the Bible and about science...

talli_5 · Post by **talli_5** » 20 Mar 2021, 01:36

I would be a number 1. Its not that I feel anything negative towards religion, its just that I believe you need not look further than historical accounts to disprove religion and its creation theory. I feel like everyone automatically looks to science to try to disprove religion when this will never work. There are too many variables when looking at scientific proof for things long past and things to come.

There is too much we still do not understand about our universe and time. We have explored so little of our Universe and explored so much less of time. It is within history that we find that while science is a thing proven independent of the human variable, religion is a thing entirely based on the human variable.

Religion, as I see it, was created by man. I think this is proven through history as we see religion evolve and serve purpose within governments. If a person was truly of Christian faith, then that same person would need to look at religion critically and understand that the Christianity practiced today is entirely different than that practiced at the time of Jesus Christ. The bible has been rewritten, altered, important texts destroyed, and distributed in a calculative way reminiscent of a conniving government (which is what I believe the Vatican to be). This is all proven through history, not science.

The fact that most religions sound somewhat similar is also not a coincidence in my opinion. These similarities can easily be explained in that all religions were created by the same thing, man. Man, who always carries the same wants and needs regardless of time and location.

I believe Religion has a place in our society today, but this place may need to be closely monitored. I have watched it save and guide many. But I have also watched it kill and destroy many others. The base of most religions is admirable and noble, and there is no harm in following their teachings however, we must not let it get out of hand. Some things are better left to that which can be proven independent of emotion and moral value, such as evolutionary proof of creation.

In conclusion, I believe everyone should live their life in a way that is healthy for them and harms no other. I believe everyone has a right to believe what they want but should never preach to those unwilling. And I believe that faith in a higher being can be beneficial for some, as long as their big picture sight of what is scientific reality is not clouded by the glittering beauty and reassurance of spiritual faith.

jaym_tan · Post by **jaym_tan** » 20 Mar 2021, 04:54

I would just have to go with the fourth group because I think there are things in this world that are yet to be discovered, maybe through understanding both the scriptures and sciences we might find the answers.

joynob24365 · Post by **joynob24365** » 20 Mar 2021, 09:32

The three points seem quite limited. I don't know in which point I am. But I believe in God and sometimes science. When there is contradiction to both, I choose religion.