Racial slurs and derogatory terms
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Re: Racial slurs and derogatory terms
Indeed, some genres need to use these terms, simply because it's historically congruent or to explain them, as in history textbooks. But considering this book is a memoir, what do you think?Ashley Wood 2 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 18:07 Depends on the context if it is in a history book or one that is explaining the terms from a historic viewpoint then it should be okey, but on the other hand if this is down in the south then it causes some issues. Though we are going to come across this issue time and time again as the times change slurs and derogatory terms are going to change with them or old ones will make a come back.
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There are a lot of old books with politically incorrect language and scenes that will be problematic today. However, in those days, it was not an issue.
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Of course, the "offensiveness" of a word depends on the context in which it's used. For example, I've heard African-American people use the N-word as a friendly term between them, but I would never dare use it.Bibi Farheen K wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 03:32 I think that the context and history behind the use of a word makes the difference between a derogatory one and a non-derogatory one. We also have to consider one's personal take on this. A term that is derogatory to me may not be so to someone else.
There are a lot of old books with politically incorrect language and scenes that will be problematic today. However, in those days, it was not an issue.
However, let's remember that even if the book takes place during the Vietnam War it wasn't written in the 50s, so the timeline and the "justification" of a social climate in which political correctness was not a thing become blurry.
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Yeah I agree with you. I am part of a religious community that has to deal with derogatory terms all through different time periods.Jumana Fawmi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2022, 04:04 Unfortunately racial slurs and derogatory terms are things we here in our day to day life despite the difference in time period. I think author used it to attribute the social climate of the time
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I agree with your opinion completely. As a Black South African we have an almost similar situation with a k-word considered absolutely derogatory and is thus a no-go while there is the subjective "Boer" used to refer white individuals of Afrikaaner heritage. Some consider the second word derogatory but some do not and I guess the main distinction between the two of them is how the k-word has a lot of history tied to it.Macha Mphela wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 04:33 Prejudice and what people consider racial slurs are a tough subject to navigate. On one hand, "redneck" may be considered derogatory, but on the other, it may not because there's no history of the word being violently used against a group of people.
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Yep...hisrory weighs in a lot when we talk about what's offensive and what's not, who is allowed to say what and who isn't allowed. A white person saying the k-word, in whatever context, can be seen as offensive merely because that's what history taught us.Ntokozo Joy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 03:09I agree with your opinion completely. As a Black South African we have an almost similar situation with a k-word considered absolutely derogatory and is thus a no-go while there is the subjective "Boer" used to refer white individuals of Afrikaaner heritage. Some consider the second word derogatory but some do not and I guess the main distinction between the two of them is how the k-word has a lot of history tied to it.Macha Mphela wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 04:33 Prejudice and what people consider racial slurs are a tough subject to navigate. On one hand, "redneck" may be considered derogatory, but on the other, it may not because there's no history of the word being violently used against a group of people.
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I would've thought it was the other way around. That slurs and offensive language were much more common in the past than nowadays. Could you redirect me to your source to learn more about what you're saying?Laww wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 06:02 Utterances of racial slurs is very common nowadays. However in 5he near past, the political climate limited usage of such slurs as the have negative effects to mental stability of some individuals. Bill Springer portrays the effects of usage of such slurs. These slurs shouldn't be perceived differently as they both weigh almost similar effects.
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Exactly. Even if the terms were acceptable in the time the book takes place, they're not in the time it was published. That's why authors these days have "sensitivity readers" who proofread the book focusing on these mistakes.Ntokozo Joy wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 01:02 I think the moment we consider any issue of racism to depend on context and who's doing things we have lost it as society. As "woke" as the world is right now, derogatory must be just that, universally, regardless of who's saying the words. The author used words that were okay for the time the book is based in but they shouldn't be okay for the time the book was published.