Michael Chrichton versus Al Gore
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Michael Chrichton versus Al Gore
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I did recently read "The Sign," a novel by Raymond Khoury which is about global warming (he's a believer), naturalistic materialistic Darwinism (he's fer it), and religion (he's agin it). However, I would not say there are "arguments" per se in the novel. He tries, but all his arguments seem to be based on "religious leaders are con men and religious people are stupid sheep." Global warming is assumed to be a fact, not proved.
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You've touched on an interesting point here, HOLDONthere, because I also have noticed that trend. Darwinists and Creationists can't meet eye-to-eye and agree on anything, let alone global warming!H0LD0Nthere wrote:.....He (Raymond Khoury) tries, but all his arguments seem to be based on "religious leaders are con men and religious people are stupid sheep." Global warming is assumed to be a fact, not proved.
I'm not a fan of the tactics used by Crichton or Gore but I have a lot of time for Alain de Botton, writer and philospher. I liked his thought-provoking comments in BBC News Magazine:
Excerpts: "On global warming, we have been asked to reconceive of ourselves as 'unthinking killers' for doing things such as wasting water or travelling by plane - an indictment that affects us individually but can only be absolved collectively" and "The ecological situation has forever changed our relationship to nature. An unusually warm Spring day cannot now be what it was for Chaucer and Wordsworth - a manifestation of the mystery and power of the non-human realm".
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Eco-guilt plays a big factor in global warming issues and, surprise surprise, the ways to ease our guilt and reduce carbon emissions costs money. Offsets, fossil fuel tax, recycling, go green, carbon neutral, hydroponics, off grid, greenhouse gas reduction, rainwater tanks, solar panels, wind farming, most alternatives put money into the pockets of enterprising companies. As the debate rages on, nobody has managed to convince me one way or the other.H0LD0Nthere wrote:.....It really bugs me to be considered "guilty" of something I cannot possibly stop doing ... like using energy, or living in my native land. Wendell Berry says, "The fact that, in most cases, we have no alternative does not diminish our guilt." I beg to differ.
To separate our household rubbish, we can pay a quarterly rate to have three wheelie bins collected weekly but the three council trucks which collect this waste must negate any benefits a thousand-fold. I'm a consumer, I drive a car and let the water tap run too long, but I try to be more frugal and less wasteful where possible. Does it matter?
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This is almost certainly not the place for a debate about this (I appreciate it was me who made the original comment), but a few minutes on Google is enough to find that the science he uses has been pretty heavily debunked by experts, including by people whose work he cited.Job419 wrote:You should read the book! Especially the footnotes.