Is Suicide Ever the Answer?
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Re: Is Suicide Ever the Answer?
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You have a point. At the end of the day, we have to remind our selves that we can not just judge those people committing suicide.Rochelle Torres wrote:Sometimes suicide is the only sense of control that a person has left over their own life. Depression and other sorts of mental illness do have the ability to make a person suffer to a day to day basis, even to the point where they feel little to no enjoyment at all anymore. It's harder for these types of people to make it than the average joe. When their mental health starts to collapse no one comes runnin with the safety net, they come runnin with threats, shut off notices, and repo's. Sad but true. Our current society doesnt just create the mentally ill like dirt, it creates the mentally ill in general. And if that isnt enough they usually make the illness fester with religion, politics and psycho-active drugs. How can a dysfunctional world dictate how a person should end their life? In any rational world or society, the very first suicide would have been a major concern. You ever notice when people kill themselves their loved ones say "I should of done something" but yet when that person was alive all they ever did was treat them like a burden. Yeah. This "life is a precious gift" BS is for the birds. I'll be a suicide some day and I by no means think it's selfish of me, I just know my limits.
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I never judge people who commit suicide. I just feel so sad that there are people who live with such devastating hopelessness that they feel death is the only answer. I understand, have been there. Currently taking meds to help - they are not perfect, but so much better I don't know how I ever made it without them. I send you hugs.Donnavila Marie01 wrote:You have a point. At the end of the day, we have to remind our selves that we can not just judge those people committing suicide.Rochelle Torres wrote:Sometimes suicide is the only sense of control that a person has left over their own life. Depression and other sorts of mental illness do have the ability to make a person suffer to a day to day basis, even to the point where they feel little to no enjoyment at all anymore. It's harder for these types of people to make it than the average joe. When their mental health starts to collapse no one comes runnin with the safety net, they come runnin with threats, shut off notices, and repo's. Sad but true. Our current society doesnt just create the mentally ill like dirt, it creates the mentally ill in general. And if that isnt enough they usually make the illness fester with religion, politics and psycho-active drugs. How can a dysfunctional world dictate how a person should end their life? In any rational world or society, the very first suicide would have been a major concern. You ever notice when people kill themselves their loved ones say "I should of done something" but yet when that person was alive all they ever did was treat them like a burden. Yeah. This "life is a precious gift" BS is for the birds. I'll be a suicide some day and I by no means think it's selfish of me, I just know my limits.
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This... for the most part. We don't accuse a cancer victim (Or some other terminal illness victim) for getting a horrible disease but we stigmatize and blame a suicide victim for succumbing to their illness about how "cowardly" and "selfish" they are... It's not right, I tell you.Steph K wrote:...suicide is mostly the consequence of mental illness. Suicidal ideation is often a symptom of more severe cases. There is a narrative that suicide happens when a person just doesn't have the moral fortitude to deal with a difficult situation. That a more positive frame of mind would have changed everything. The reality is that the person was probably struggling with a mental illness, with their brain chemicals unbalanced in a way that made "just think positively" not possible. They needed medical intervention, not a pep talk. This is why it has become the journalistic standard to say "died by suicide" and not "committed suicide". It's not a moral failure or a crime. It is a disease that ended tragically.
But this only covers the random suicide involving a relatively physically healthy individual, not the "Mercy Suicides" for a debilitating, painful, terminal illness which should be totally up to the individual sufferer with how much actual torture they can suffer without going crazy.
And I'm sure their are some individuals imprisoned in some hostile environment (in a fire, under water, in an airplane crash at the top of the Himalayas, as a slave being tortured, maimed and raped) in which there is no hope for survival.
Yes, yes, maybe if they had held out a little while longer, they could have been saved... but my point is, it is not our right to judge. It's our job to makes sure, as a society, that we support all of our citizen's well-being so that suicide is never needed as an option. You cannot say, "They are cowardly and selfish," when you, or society, or whoever, didn't do their absolute most to help them, in particular and for society as a whole. And by help, on a small, everyday scale that everyone should be doing anyways, I mean being nice to people, not being a road rage driver, the jerk boss that uses his/her status to step on the workers below him/her, not being that customer that makes the life of the receptionist or store clerk miserable, seeing when it's the little things that will make the day of some random person... smiling! This is not just "happy thoughts"... This is truly considering what your fellow man needs and not being so short sighted and selfish about your own existence... and judgmental and accusatory. This is what is going to save so many more people with suicidal tendencies than if you just accuse them of selfishness and cowardliness... That's never going to fix anything and until that is done, we can never escape the dark specter of that last ill-conceived action.