When does personal responsibility become a part of the question?
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Re: When does personal responsibility become a part of the question?
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Thank you for your comment! Please do understand I feel the same, as the reason I asked the question. Guns are weapons. They are a bit violent in nature- as they have the quickest power to kill an animal, a living thing, out of all weapons- and that IS why they were created and continue to be sold. They are most certainly not evil, yet demanding of respect.kfwilson6 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2018, 09:34 I very strongly believe in taking responsibility for one's own actions and in every case in Final Notice, I solely blamed the shooter. I didn't blame Vitaltech for the Final Notice alert, I didn't blame the NRA for their marketing efforts, I didn't blame the gun manufacturers and sellers.
I think that too much falls on others, and not enough self-responsibility. My biggest problem lies with the amount of money that is put into preventing proper legislation- as possibly illegal or putting them somewhat at-fault. If we looked at every piece of legislation, the timing it was introduced, along with what tragedy it stemmed from- and then track payments to legislators and lobbyists by the NRA to block such legislation- if the instances coincided- that would show the ongoing cycle- it shows collusion to enable a destructive process to our citizenship and democracy. If a citizen obstructed justice and incited violence- they would be charged for it, but all to often corporations dilute our paths to justice.
Please know I do not want huge restrictions- just real education for gun buyers and users - like a drivers license. Registration of weapons like cars. Contingency plans we can all handle in case people get out of hand with their weapons and pose a threat. Again, thanks for the comment!
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Very well-said! On the other hand, the shooter's mind is not working well. That's a realistic reaction of someone who knows when and how he dies. Some people these days even did more than that.melissy370 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2018, 15:45 We are all "our brother's keeper" in some regard. If we know someone or something can bring about harm we should report it. VitalTech is responsible indirectly because they should have changed the watch options when they learned people were getting hurt. Ultimately, it is the shooter who does bear the most blame. It was their choice to pull the trigger.
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The responsibility of companies is to make money. Even though I don't agree with bribing people to make money, they are fulfilling their responsibility.
The responsibility of the FBI is to catch people who commit a crime. Can they prevent someone from committing murder. I guess so but only during the act, if they act before then you get "minority report" connotations and all the controversy that comes with it.
So, as with all aspects of life, the only person with responsibility here is the person who got the final notice.
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I have struggled with VitalTechs level of responsibility. I feel very similar to some in the book that talk about how it is just like a doctor telling someone they only have X amount of time to live. That is something that I kept finding odd. I know people had a more precise timeline than doctors can normally give but it seemed odd that just because they knew they were dying they turned into murderers. The suicides made sense to me, going on your own terms, but not the murders.melissy370 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2018, 15:45 We are all "our brother's keeper" in some regard. If we know someone or something can bring about harm we should report it. VitalTech is responsible indirectly because they should have changed the watch options when they learned people were getting hurt. Ultimately, it is the shooter who does bear the most blame. It was their choice to pull the trigger.
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So in terms of the book, who do you think could have helped show interest in those that were doing the shooting? I know people keep focusing on VitalTech, but I could not help but think that if there had been some sort of therapist involved in the process it would have helped. I know the watch said to go talk to your doctor, but I think someone who is equipped to deal with emotions would have been better.
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I agree. I kept wishing that the shooters would talk to their families when they got their Final Notice. These were everyday average people, not bloodthirsty criminals. I feel like if they had just talked to someone they would have realized that this was a crazy plan they had.GabbiV wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 10:41 I think the supplier of the weapons holds responsibility only second to the actual shooter. I tend to think more leniently towards the people that could have prevented the actions, such as guards or anyone at the shooting. But on the other hand, I think more responsibility should be placed on the people closest to the shooter for not doing more, even if you cannot legally do anything about perceived future events.