Does this book prove real-life is stranger than fiction?
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Does this book prove real-life is stranger than fiction?
What were some of the wildest moments in this book? Did you ever question the author's credibility?
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I think the most shocking moment was the second helicopter lift. I kept thinking "NO DUKE, you don't know this pilot!!!" I was terrified but people do those type of stunts and there has to be a starting point.
I think most of the story of Duke is likely true. Gary's portion just aggravated me. 35 years old and still behaving as he was. I think the most difficult to believe aspect of the book was Gary's quick turn around upon Duke's death. Of all the years and experiences he had, why would the death of someone he had spent so little time with been so integral for him? Also, Angel's willingness to be with Gary was hard to comprehend. I just couldn't imagine anyone going after a man who allowed money to be stapled to his chest!!!!
Yup lots of surprises in this book.
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I feel the same way about movies that are "based on true events," such as A Beautiful Mind. It is a great film, but the scene where the main character, John, almost drowns his baby in the bath tub and his wife comes home at the perfect time to save the baby is either real-life divine timing or an exaggeration. Many "based on true events" films include incredible climaxes, heightened drama, and suspense that is magically influenced by perfect timing. How much is real and how much is creative writing? The same can be asked of this book.
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I think that much of Duke’s story is true, but it seems a bit romanticized compared to Gary's. Robinson seemed more brutally honest about his own story than Duke's.kfwilson6 wrote: ↑ I think most of the story of Duke is likely true. Gary's portion just aggravated me. 35 years old and still behaving as he was. I think the most difficult to believe aspect of the book was Gary's quick turn around upon Duke's death. Of all the years and experiences he had, why would the death of someone he had spent so little time with been so integral for him? Also, Angel's willingness to be with Gary was hard to comprehend. I just couldn't imagine anyone going after a man who allowed money to be stapled to his chest!!!!
Yup lots of surprises in this book.
I agree, Gary's story was aggravating, and yet, I think it may have been more real than Duke's. I have actually met some people who are still struggling with drugs, alcohol, and to find their place as they approach middle age. Most of them tend to wind up in homeless shelters, though.
The part with Angel was pretty unrealistic, I agree. She seemed a bit clueless when we first meet her, drunk at the party. And then to take Gary's side because of "chemistry" seems a bit much if you ask me.
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Kendra M Parker wrote: ↑10 May 2018, 20:10Often, it is difficult to comprehend why people do certain things when you know the activity is crazy, stupid and insane. The fact that Gary still behaved recklessly has nothing to do with his age but I believe had everything to do with his addiction. Being addictive to drugs throws out any sense of logic that a normal/sane person may have. We do not know what a person may be going through in their life and how that situation is affecting them. We can imagine how you would feel but each person is different and everyone handles things in different ways. Gary mentioned that it was because he met Duke that he was able to change his life around, regardless of whether or not he had spent time with Duke, you cannot fully understand maybe how their encounter affected him. Simply because we may not be in constant contact with someone, does not mean that it erases what that chance encounter meant to him.kfwilson6 wrote: ↑ I think most of the story of Duke is likely true. Gary's portion just aggravated me. 35 years old and still behaving as he was. I think the most difficult to believe aspect of the book was Gary's quick turn around upon Duke's death. Of all the years and experiences he had, why would the death of someone he had spent so little time with been so integral for him? Also, Angel's willingness to be with Gary was hard to comprehend. I just couldn't imagine anyone going after a man who allowed money to be stapled to his chest!!!!
Yup lots of surprises in this book.
I think that much of Duke’s story is true, but it seems a bit romanticized compared to Gary's. Robinson seemed more brutally honest about his own story than Duke's.
I agree, Gary's story was aggravating, and yet, I think it may have been more real than Duke's. I have actually met some people who are still struggling with drugs, alcohol, and to find their place as they approach middle age. Most of them tend to wind up in homeless shelters, though.
The part with Angel was pretty unrealistic, I agree. She seemed a bit clueless when we first meet her, drunk at the party. And then to take Gary's side because of "chemistry" seems a bit much if you ask me.
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I thought about this a little more and I think if someone is going to label their fiction as "based on true events" the only fictional aspect of it should be limited, as much as possible, to the dialogue. No one is going to remember conversations they had or overheard word for word, so of course their needs to be some creative license there. But I think the events should be as representative as possible of the real-life events they are based on. Once you start getting into changing key aspects of a story or the characters' personalities, I think "inspired by" would be more appropriate.bwill93 wrote: ↑10 May 2018, 19:05 I haven't read the book but I did read the review and I found it to be a pretty amazing story. Sword swallowing in itself is a crazy thing to be real, but yet it is. I agree with kfwilson6 when she asks how much of a story needs to be true in order to be labeled "based on true events?"
I feel the same way about movies that are "based on true events," such as A Beautiful Mind. It is a great film, but the scene where the main character, John, almost drowns his baby in the bath tub and his wife comes home at the perfect time to save the baby is either real-life divine timing or an exaggeration. Many "based on true events" films include incredible climaxes, heightened drama, and suspense that is magically influenced by perfect timing. How much is real and how much is creative writing? The same can be asked of this book.
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The coincidence of Gary's landlord being Angel's husband was mostly there so that they would have more connection when they finally met. Gary was one lucky man, though. He wins all the awards during rush week. He gets locked in a closet so that he doesn’t get stuck with the charges relating to eating the mammoth. His romantic interest is his landlord's wife, who wants to divorce her husband. He met up with Duke. He survived an overdose that should have killed him...
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So true. Sometimes when talking about my own life I say "I couldn't make this up." Because I realize how strange and unbelievable what I'm saying might sound.desantismt_17 wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 12:12 As to whether real life is stranger than fiction, they say people just can't make some things up. This doesn't prove anything, really, but there it is.
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The author has explained, quantified and given a backgrounder on his book and how it has been influenced by his own personal experiences through his letter posted in this site (viewtopic.php?f=81&t=67002). If the term "based on true events" will be a gauge of "the author's credibility" then it is helpful to consider that the book isn't a biography and, therefore, isn't claiming a 100% account of actual events (not to mention the fact that there are many ways that the truth could be perceived and correspondingly described based on the circumstances and capacities of the person on whose perspective the observation and account emanates from, among others). I have not read the book yet, yet in the same posted letter, Gary doesn't seem to emphasise much (if not, at all) on the technical rudiments of circus work or sword-swallowing but instead on the tales surrounding the characters' lives.Sptlightstar wrote: ↑10 May 2018, 08:17 I found myself second-guessing that this was based on real events many times because this book had me thinking, "How could someone do this to themselves?" so often. I had to keep going back to the book's description to confirm that I hadn't misread and that The Sword Swallower and a Chico Kid was based on true events.
What were some of the wildest moments in this book? Did you ever question the author's credibility?
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Well maybe in some cases but probably not in the case or dragons, wizards, and aliens (I get what you are saying about emotions though). I think a certain curiosity is sparked when a reader finds out a book is based on a true story. I think this curiosity is further intensified when the subject matter is so far out of the norm. The lack of detail in some areas of Duke's life may have been the result of gaps in Gary's own knowledge.desantismt_17 wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 12:11 Since this book was labeled as fiction, I went into it assuming there was a vague resemblence to reality but that most of the events were made up. I've heard that all fiction is just non-fiction masquerading as a story. If that's true, everything is "based on real events," even if those real events are as small as emotional reactions.
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