Do you think this book predicts the future?

tochicat · Post by **tochicat** » 07 Aug 2018, 05:15

I'm from Nigeria, so I wouldn't really know the organic state of things in America. But from where I'm sitting, it seems a lot like the United States has delivered itself into the maelstrom of a series of unfortunate events, with no foreseeable end. But as @chelhack rightly says, things seem to change at the drop of a hat these days.

With all that aside though, I do believe World Incorporated does a troublingly good job of predicting the future. And not just a vague future, but the very near future. To me it doesn't depend on the people or their leaders or the powers that be; the way I see it the state of affairs have now become a chain reaction that must exhaust itself before things can begin again.

C090365420 · Post by **C090365420** » 07 Aug 2018, 06:22

:Anything can be happened in the future
United States is a powerful country.
But there are so many countries which are growing with high speed.Once a king isn't always a king.Now united states needs a President like India's Prime minister who is always standing for his country and it's people.

DATo · Post by **DATo** » 07 Aug 2018, 06:55

tochicat wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 05:07
This was powerful to read DATo, I clearly haven't seen, read or heard as much as I thought I had
Would definitely love to read Cloud Atlas, only seen the adaptation in film. And Network! I'm off to figure out how I can get a copy of that. A lot of these things are more education than we think.

Cloud Atlas was an amazing book, however, lest there be any confusion, the quote I included was from the movie Network.

Cloud Atlas was made into a movie which is equally exceptional in my opinion. It begins in the 1700s and ends in the distant future.

Below is a link to what I think is the most amazing trailer of a movie I have ever experienced. I think it might encourage you to read the book or to see the movie.

Cloud Atlas (trailer) Watch it, you'll like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnAqFyaQ5s

msomigreat · Post by **msomigreat** » 07 Aug 2018, 08:12

the book does not possibly predict the future. however, given the fact that the united states and many other emerging powers are shaping the world in unprecedented ways, it is possible that the united states can lose its hegemony over the world. it is good to bear the author's message to thought

Panasea Richie · Post by **Panasea Richie** » 07 Aug 2018, 09:06

How can Whole U.S lose power.This incredibly absolutely not true.Taking a look at the way technology and scientist have emerged now this days with just a little application of their knowledge something new is invented to produce power.The is a saying that the future holds in hands. You are the one to decide your future and I dont think that a country like U.S sit and watch their country go into power crises. Your today will determine your tommorow,even if you lost an opportunity today there is still another

juliecsa · Post by **juliecsa** » 07 Aug 2018, 09:32

sanjus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 12:55 Everything will depend on collective belief of the citizens because they are the one who will decide about the future. Present day governments and corporates only can try to shape their belief.

I think this is a very important point. Dystopian books like this sometimes make us forget that we as a people still have agency, and we can prevent things that we do not want from happening. Government and corporations are powerful, but ultimately, we CAN shape the future.

DancingLady · Post by **DancingLady** » 07 Aug 2018, 09:54

I think some elements certainly could be, but ultimately, no, and my reasons for saying that is that I believe the Bible 100% and this dystopian world does not line up with Biblical prophecy. I do think that corporate power is a real threat. We already see how they can and do buy off government officials and agencies to get what they want, such as approval for new pharmaceuticals which are actually incredibly dangerous.

Fu Zaila · Post by **Fu Zaila** » 07 Aug 2018, 10:36

tochicat wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 05:15 I'm from Nigeria, so I wouldn't really know the organic state of things in America. But from where I'm sitting, it seems a lot like the United States has delivered itself into the maelstrom of a series of unfortunate events, with no foreseeable end. But as @chelhack rightly says, things seem to change at the drop of a hat these days.

With all that aside though, I do believe World Incorporated does a troublingly good job of predicting the future. And not just a vague future, but the very near future. To me it doesn't depend on the people or their leaders or the powers that be; the way I see it the state of affairs have now become a chain reaction that must exhaust itself before things can begin again.

That is a really good way of seeing things @tochicat. The chain reaction is currently ongoing, and somewhere or other it has to end.

Bianka Walter · Post by **Bianka Walter** » 07 Aug 2018, 12:10

DancingLady wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 09:54 I think some elements certainly could be, but ultimately, no, and my reasons for saying that is that I believe the Bible 100% and this dystopian world does not line up with Biblical prophecy. I do think that corporate power is a real threat. We already see how they can and do buy off government officials and agencies to get what they want, such as approval for new pharmaceuticals which are actually incredibly dangerous.

I get what you're saying, but if the corporates are buying off government officials to get what they want - who is actually at fault? The government, or the corporates? I think if we put our faith in leaders, they should be steadfast in their beliefs. What you are describing here is two separate sides, BOTH at fault. I wouldn't want either of them in charge.

Bianka Walter · Post by **Bianka Walter** » 07 Aug 2018, 12:25

JudasFm wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 02:37 No countries ever stay the same. It's America's turn to be powerful now; before that, it was the British Empire, and the Roman, and the Greek...whether it will be like the novel, I don't know, but I don't think the US will remain as powerful as it is forever

I agree. Power shifts constantly. Whether it be in 40 years or 4000 years, I feel like the U.S. will eventually have an adversary that they won't be able to rival. I'm not sure it will be in MY lifetime, but one day

Supergirl1 · Post by **Supergirl1** » 07 Aug 2018, 13:26

Not entirely. Do I think the US may lose its position as most powerful nation? Maybe. Will it be to super corporations? I think not. No matter how much companies buy government officials and agencies, the government will always ensure a way to keep the leash secure.

[Valerie Allen] · Post by **[Valerie Allen]** » 07 Aug 2018, 13:47

Now that I've completed the book, I can accurately state, Tom Gariffo takes you beyond your wildest imagination into the new prosperity of a futuristic society that I can only imagine. However, Yes as I previously stated, I do believe the United States of America will lose its power in the near future as also written about in the Left Behind book series, best-selling novels by authors Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, dealing with Christian dispensationalist end times, in accord with the Holy Bible.

DancingLady · Post by **DancingLady** » 07 Aug 2018, 19:07

Bianka Walter wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 12:10
DancingLady wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 09:54 I think some elements certainly could be, but ultimately, no, and my reasons for saying that is that I believe the Bible 100% and this dystopian world does not line up with Biblical prophecy. I do think that corporate power is a real threat. We already see how they can and do buy off government officials and agencies to get what they want, such as approval for new pharmaceuticals which are actually incredibly dangerous.
I get what you're saying, but if the corporates are buying off government officials to get what they want - who is actually at fault? The government, or the corporates? I think if we put our faith in leaders, they should be steadfast in their beliefs. What you are describing here is two separate sides, BOTH at fault. I wouldn't want either of them in charge.

True, and without question they are both at fault. I personally choose to put my trust in Jesus Christ and Him alone. I know for 100% sure that every single human being I ever encounter will let me down in some way, and I will let down everyone who ever sees me in this life. It's a good thing to work for positive change, but we have to accept that this world is fallen and the prophecies in the Bible will come to pass no matter what we do. This world isn't the end, and this life is just the beginning, so no matter what happens here, it's going to be so good in heaven everything bad will be eternally forgotten.

Dusamae · Post by **Dusamae** » 07 Aug 2018, 20:19

No, I don't really think it a prediction of the future of the United States. My husband and I talked about "what ifs" and we try to decide which corporations would become the super corporations. It was fun but not a prediction.