Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?
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Re: Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?
This scene in the book not only affected me profoundly, but based on the other comments in this discussion I can say it was a key uncomfortable point in the story.B Creech wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 02:46I know what you mean! I cry when I see those commercials on TV from the Humane Society!katiesquilts wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 17:10Honestly I hardly blink twice when a character is killed off (so de-sensitized) but whenever animals are treated cruelly I bawl like a baby!
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I didn't like it, either. I hate when something terrible happens to puppies. When I watch series or movies and something terrible happens to puppies, I hate it from the bottom of my soul.
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I agree!Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 05:11This scene in the book not only affected me profoundly, but based on the other comments in this discussion I can say it was a key uncomfortable point in the story.B Creech wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 02:46I know what you mean! I cry when I see those commercials on TV from the Humane Society!katiesquilts wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 17:10
Honestly I hardly blink twice when a character is killed off (so de-sensitized) but whenever animals are treated cruelly I bawl like a baby!
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I totally agree. The sad truth is that there are people like this in real life who take pleasure in mindless cruelty and always find a way to plant themselves near kids, all the while going unnoticed by other adults.Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.esp1975 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 16:14 I think what bothered me most about the harming of the wolf cubs, and the Game Keeper in general, was that there did not seem to be a point to his character. He was nothing but cruel, and his presence in the book did not add to the plot at all. He wasn't even made out to be a red herring. His continued job at the orphanage makes me not like the character of Dew Pellucid much either, because why would she tolerate that kind of sadistic behavior?
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I always feel uncomfortable with mindless cruelty to pets in any story.Adedayo+23 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 16:34I totally agree. The sad truth is that there are people like this in real life who take pleasure in mindless cruelty and always find a way to plant themselves near kids, all the while going unnoticed by other adults.Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.esp1975 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 16:14 I think what bothered me most about the harming of the wolf cubs, and the Game Keeper in general, was that there did not seem to be a point to his character. He was nothing but cruel, and his presence in the book did not add to the plot at all. He wasn't even made out to be a red herring. His continued job at the orphanage makes me not like the character of Dew Pellucid much either, because why would she tolerate that kind of sadistic behavior?
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Oh wow with all the similarities to the Harry Potter series I noticed I'm surprised I didn't see the parallel to Filch. They definitely were similar!Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.esp1975 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 16:14 I think what bothered me most about the harming of the wolf cubs, and the Game Keeper in general, was that there did not seem to be a point to his character. He was nothing but cruel, and his presence in the book did not add to the plot at all. He wasn't even made out to be a red herring. His continued job at the orphanage makes me not like the character of Dew Pellucid much either, because why would she tolerate that kind of sadistic behavior?
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The impossible cruelty to animals and bias towards students were definitely Filch-ish. All that was remaining was "In my days....students....whipping....flayed..."Kaylee123 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 09:17Oh wow with all the similarities to the Harry Potter series I noticed I'm surprised I didn't see the parallel to Filch. They definitely were similar!Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.esp1975 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 16:14 I think what bothered me most about the harming of the wolf cubs, and the Game Keeper in general, was that there did not seem to be a point to his character. He was nothing but cruel, and his presence in the book did not add to the plot at all. He wasn't even made out to be a red herring. His continued job at the orphanage makes me not like the character of Dew Pellucid much either, because why would she tolerate that kind of sadistic behavior?
Filch was known for longing for the cruelty dealt to students in his youth.
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I hadnt noticed a lot of the Harry Potter similarities when I read the book myself, until I have been reading them here on this thread! Very interesting! I wonder if this was purposeful on the authors behald or if it was subconsciously done.Kaylee123 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 09:17Oh wow with all the similarities to the Harry Potter series I noticed I'm surprised I didn't see the parallel to Filch. They definitely were similar!Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.esp1975 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 16:14 I think what bothered me most about the harming of the wolf cubs, and the Game Keeper in general, was that there did not seem to be a point to his character. He was nothing but cruel, and his presence in the book did not add to the plot at all. He wasn't even made out to be a red herring. His continued job at the orphanage makes me not like the character of Dew Pellucid much either, because why would she tolerate that kind of sadistic behavior?
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The uncomfortably cruel scenes with the Gate Keeper -Filch, and the killing and lack of emotions by the Fate Sealers-Dementors...I see a certain similarity.Kro92813 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 22:42I hadnt noticed a lot of the Harry Potter similarities when I read the book myself, until I have been reading them here on this thread! Very interesting! I wonder if this was purposeful on the authors behald or if it was subconsciously done.Kaylee123 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 09:17Oh wow with all the similarities to the Harry Potter series I noticed I'm surprised I didn't see the parallel to Filch. They definitely were similar!Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05
So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.
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But Argus Filch was harmless, other than helping put kids in detention. He was a frustrated man because he was a Squib, and I think it was Dumbledore's kindness that got him the job. The Game Keeper is in a completely different ballpark.Nisha Ward wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 04:05So the book's been noted for the similarities to the Harry Potter series right? This actually reminds me of an uncomfortable problem with this subgenre where the people in charge often keep employing rather cruel persons who are allowed near kids. The Game Keeper is rather reminiscent of Argus Filch in that way and it really bothers me how much he was willing to hurt Will's wolf.esp1975 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 16:14 I think what bothered me most about the harming of the wolf cubs, and the Game Keeper in general, was that there did not seem to be a point to his character. He was nothing but cruel, and his presence in the book did not add to the plot at all. He wasn't even made out to be a red herring. His continued job at the orphanage makes me not like the character of Dew Pellucid much either, because why would she tolerate that kind of sadistic behavior?
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I didn't feel uncomfortable throughout the book. I felt it's just a fiction book. So I expected bizarre scenes, especially after I found out that Deá and Damian were Echoes, not animals. I was ready for anything.
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Now I don't need to feel warm fuzzies throughout a story but if I'm going to be " weirded out" it better be worth it.
This certainly is an imaginative and fast pasted story but I don't know if the pay off is enough. If I'm going to feel uncomfortable so much I want it to be a fantastic story. And I don't think that's the case here.
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