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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:45
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:46
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:51

I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
That was the point though - to show the cruelty to mixed breeds in echoland. They were not treated like living beings. More like something unnatural to dispose of.
While it went a long way to further Echoland's world building, it also presented an uncomfortable part to the plot.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:44
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:44
Helena91 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 08:01 Yes, Emmy being taken to Shadowpain was cruel. I wasn't comfortable with it
I also found quite uncomfortable once I learned just how bad Shadowpain was. It was unnecessary to drag an innocent child there.
I wonder what happened to her there
It was uncomfortable to think of two year-old Emmy in Shadowpain.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:43
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:43 Emmy being taken to Shadowpain was cruel and uncomfortable, especially considering her age at the time.
Exactly! She seemed to have come out ok considering she spent 5 yrs of her impressionable life there
I don't think she came out okay, it's just that her PoV was non-existent making it impossible to see the scars of Shadowpain.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:45
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:46
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:51

I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
That was the point though - to show the cruelty to mixed breeds in echoland. They were not treated like living beings. More like something unnatural to dispose of.
One of the most uncomfortable parts of the book was the treatment of harmonies in Echoland. Aurilius was treated like vermin by most people, and I think it symbolised the outcasts in society...those who don't fit the societal norms and mold.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:40
kdstrack wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 21:37 The ice had coated her entire body like a coffin. There she lay, frozen in an instant of horror, screaming forever without sound. “Mom!” Will choked—
Pellucid, Dew. The Crystilleries of Echoland (p. 28). Nothing but the Story. Kindle Edition.

This was the first uncomfortable scene for me.
This painted the picture of the damage that those nasty fate sealers could do. Thankfully she came out unscathed!
It was uncomfortable for me to see Will's mother tormented by the loss of Emmy, constantly trying to find her...to be attacked when she is helpless. It was an uncomfortable way to be introduced to one of antagonists in the book.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:43
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:43 Emmy being taken to Shadowpain was cruel and uncomfortable, especially considering her age at the time.
Exactly! She seemed to have come out ok considering she spent 5 yrs of her impressionable life there
I don't know if she came out okay, but it was definitely uncomfortable to think how the fate sealers might have tortured a two year old in Shadowpain.
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:46
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:51
gali wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 23:06 Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?

I was uncomfortable when the keeper gave will's wolf a salty water. I also didn't like the drowning of the puppies.
I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
Imagine what it feels like for me then, coming from a culture where people actually relish eating dog meat. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong part of the world 😒
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:57
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:51
gali wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 23:06 Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?

I was uncomfortable when the keeper gave will's wolf a salty water. I also didn't like the drowning of the puppies.
I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
It was sad, but brief. And it drove the point home in how mongrels were treated in echoland. They were supposed to be killed. So it wasnt necessarily the fact that they were pups but that they were mixed breeds. It definitly did its job to get everyone's attention!
It definitely got my attention as well — just not in the way I would have wanted...but I get your point and I agree.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:45
Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:46
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:51

I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
That was the point though - to show the cruelty to mixed breeds in echoland. They were not treated like living beings. More like something unnatural to dispose of.
So I'm trying to draw a correlation between the time the story was set in and today's world with animal rights and everything — I'm drawing a blank so far and rightly so.
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Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 10:05
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:55
ElizaBeth Adams wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 08:19 Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
This book looks like it paints a grim picture throughout the length of the story. I have no problem with violence-themed content in general. However, in this context — violence against kids — it would definitely rile me up.
It does its job of making you hate the fate sealers and other antagonists even more!
I agree. It certainly achieves that
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Child deaths and kidnapping are always uncomfortable subjects. I also agree with those who said the drowning of the puppies was disturbing.
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Jachike 1 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 14:37
Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:57
Jachike 1 wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 12:51

I live dogs to death. Also any other animal in the dog family. So you can be certain that the drowning of puppies would get my mind up any day, any time.
It was sad, but brief. And it drove the point home in how mongrels were treated in echoland. They were supposed to be killed. So it wasnt necessarily the fact that they were pups but that they were mixed breeds. It definitly did its job to get everyone's attention!
It definitely got my attention as well — just not in the way I would have wanted...but I get your point and I agree.
The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
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Ferdinand_otieno wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 17:11
Jachike 1 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 14:37
Kro92813 wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 09:57

It was sad, but brief. And it drove the point home in how mongrels were treated in echoland. They were supposed to be killed. So it wasnt necessarily the fact that they were pups but that they were mixed breeds. It definitly did its job to get everyone's attention!
It definitely got my attention as well — just not in the way I would have wanted...but I get your point and I agree.
The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
Yes. It was terrible. Makes me more grateful to be living in this dispensation.
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Because of such a strange setting and ambiance I was uncomfortable from the start to the end. That got me wondering if anyone feels that it's a book they will want to read more than once. If I come across a book very well written I know it will at least get a second read from me but not with this one. I don't expect all stories to give me "warm fuzzies" but I think it will be a while before I dive into this one again. I wanted to know: " Did you enjoy this
book so much that you definitely will read it again at a later date? In spite of the uncomfortable feelings it produces?". L-L.
And they sang a new song saying,
"You are worthy to take the book,
and to open its to seals,
for You were slain and have redeemed us to God,
by your blood, out of every tribe and tongue and people and Nation." Rev. 5:9
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Washboard wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 00:56 I didn't understand why the Game Keeper was a part of the book at all. He didn't help develop the plot and was horrible to the animals and children. His killing the wolf pups really bothered me and seemed completely unnecessary, other than to make the reader dislike him.
I agree, the Game Keeper really had no purpose at all. He was just there for the reader to get upset at.
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