Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?
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While it went a long way to further Echoland's world building, it also presented an uncomfortable part to the plot.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:45That was the point though - to show the cruelty to mixed breeds in echoland. They were not treated like living beings. More like something unnatural to dispose of.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:46The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
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It was uncomfortable to think of two year-old Emmy in Shadowpain.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:44I wonder what happened to her thereFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:44I also found quite uncomfortable once I learned just how bad Shadowpain was. It was unnecessary to drag an innocent child there.
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I don't think she came out okay, it's just that her PoV was non-existent making it impossible to see the scars of Shadowpain.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:43Exactly! She seemed to have come out ok considering she spent 5 yrs of her impressionable life thereFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:43 Emmy being taken to Shadowpain was cruel and uncomfortable, especially considering her age at the time.
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One of the most uncomfortable parts of the book was the treatment of harmonies in Echoland. Aurilius was treated like vermin by most people, and I think it symbolised the outcasts in society...those who don't fit the societal norms and mold.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:45That was the point though - to show the cruelty to mixed breeds in echoland. They were not treated like living beings. More like something unnatural to dispose of.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:46The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
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It was uncomfortable for me to see Will's mother tormented by the loss of Emmy, constantly trying to find her...to be attacked when she is helpless. It was an uncomfortable way to be introduced to one of antagonists in the book.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:40This painted the picture of the damage that those nasty fate sealers could do. Thankfully she came out unscathed!kdstrack wrote: ↑27 Sep 2019, 21:37 The ice had coated her entire body like a coffin. There she lay, frozen in an instant of horror, screaming forever without sound. “Mom!” Will choked—
Pellucid, Dew. The Crystilleries of Echoland (p. 28). Nothing but the Story. Kindle Edition.
This was the first uncomfortable scene for me.
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I don't know if she came out okay, but it was definitely uncomfortable to think how the fate sealers might have tortured a two year old in Shadowpain.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:43Exactly! She seemed to have come out ok considering she spent 5 yrs of her impressionable life thereFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:43 Emmy being taken to Shadowpain was cruel and uncomfortable, especially considering her age at the time.
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Imagine what it feels like for me then, coming from a culture where people actually relish eating dog meat. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong part of the worldFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:46The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
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It definitely got my attention as well — just not in the way I would have wanted...but I get your point and I agree.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:57It was sad, but brief. And it drove the point home in how mongrels were treated in echoland. They were supposed to be killed. So it wasnt necessarily the fact that they were pups but that they were mixed breeds. It definitly did its job to get everyone's attention!
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So I'm trying to draw a correlation between the time the story was set in and today's world with animal rights and everything — I'm drawing a blank so far and rightly so.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:45That was the point though - to show the cruelty to mixed breeds in echoland. They were not treated like living beings. More like something unnatural to dispose of.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:46The Game Keeper and Fate Sealers willingness to harm pets especially the drowning of puppies came off as overly uncomfortable for me.
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I agree. It certainly achieves thatKro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:05It does its job of making you hate the fate sealers and other antagonists even more!Jachike 1 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2019, 12:55This book looks like it paints a grim picture throughout the length of the story. I have no problem with violence-themed content in general. However, in this context — violence against kids — it would definitely rile me up.ElizaBeth Adams wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 08:19 Generally, the violence and eerieness of the book create an ominous ambiance that weave an uncomfortable mood throughout the story. Specifically, children being taken away from their parents was a plot point that made me feel uncomfortable.
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The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.Jachike 1 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 14:37It definitely got my attention as well — just not in the way I would have wanted...but I get your point and I agree.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:57It was sad, but brief. And it drove the point home in how mongrels were treated in echoland. They were supposed to be killed. So it wasnt necessarily the fact that they were pups but that they were mixed breeds. It definitly did its job to get everyone's attention!
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Yes. It was terrible. Makes me more grateful to be living in this dispensation.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:11The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.Jachike 1 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 14:37It definitely got my attention as well — just not in the way I would have wanted...but I get your point and I agree.Kro92813 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 09:57
It was sad, but brief. And it drove the point home in how mongrels were treated in echoland. They were supposed to be killed. So it wasnt necessarily the fact that they were pups but that they were mixed breeds. It definitly did its job to get everyone's attention!
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I agree, the Game Keeper really had no purpose at all. He was just there for the reader to get upset at.Washboard wrote: ↑03 Sep 2019, 00:56 I didn't understand why the Game Keeper was a part of the book at all. He didn't help develop the plot and was horrible to the animals and children. His killing the wolf pups really bothered me and seemed completely unnecessary, other than to make the reader dislike him.