Did certain parts of the book make you uncomfortable?
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Definitely grateful for the times we live in. The mongrels are parallel to how blacks and whites were segregated in the u.s. and is reminiscent of the holocaust.Jachike 1 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 09:29Yes. It was terrible. Makes me more grateful to be living in this dispensation.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:11The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
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Iwould actually recommend reading it twice, because you will pick up on so much more that you missed the first time! I didn't love the book because of the writing style, but I applaud the author on all the small details and nuances that correlate throughout the bookLauraLeeWasHere wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 11:20 Because of such a strange setting and ambiance I was uncomfortable from the start to the end. That got me wondering if anyone feels that it's a book they will want to read more than once. If I come across a book very well written I know it will at least get a second read from me but not with this one. I don't expect all stories to give me "warm fuzzies" but I think it will be a while before I dive into this one again. I wanted to know: " Did you enjoy this
book so much that you definitely will read it again at a later date? In spite of the uncomfortable feelings it produces?". L-L.
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I think be symbolized the "evil" in that realm. The hatred ordinary echoes had towards mongrels. The acceptance of the nasty fatdealers. He was just a grubby nasty manRoxieReads wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 17:18I agree, the Game Keeper really had no purpose at all. He was just there for the reader to get upset at.Washboard wrote: ↑03 Sep 2019, 00:56 I didn't understand why the Game Keeper was a part of the book at all. He didn't help develop the plot and was horrible to the animals and children. His killing the wolf pups really bothered me and seemed completely unnecessary, other than to make the reader dislike him.
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But the game Keeper's attitude towards Wolfèa made me uncomfortable every time Will had to leave her outside for the night.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:35Just like the animals. And better the gamekeeper made an example with a wolf pup than an actual baby. That would have been an even worse exampleFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:11The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
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I still prefer calling them harmonies...mongrels seems like a derogatory term meant as an insult.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:37Definitely grateful for the times we live in. The mongrels are parallel to how blacks and whites were segregated in the u.s. and is reminiscent of the holocaust.Jachike 1 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 09:29Yes. It was terrible. Makes me more grateful to be living in this dispensation.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:11
The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
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Just thinking of how many Sound families that were affected by the fate sealers was extremely disheartening and uncomfortable.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:33And to think the gravestone book is filled with thousands of other stories, like will andemmy's, of children kidnapped by fate dealers and they are never seen again...ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 16:43 Child deaths and kidnapping are always uncomfortable subjects. I also agree with those who said the drowning of the puppies was disturbing.
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But just the attack and watching his parents appear frozen in death. it must have been a rude awakening to the kind of danger he faced, it was particularly uncomfortable for me.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 21:08Will knew they were ok before he left. Damien told will that his father was thawing by the fire and had will thaw his mom out with the hot water hose by the lake.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:50Yes, it was a gruesome start to Will's journey, not knowing whether his parents would live or die. It was certainly uncomfortable.
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While this book had an amazing adventure, I think I wouldn't reread it because what stood out the most was Fate Sealers, the Game Keeper, Victor Valorian, and the false king- all who went out of their way to make me uncomfortable and upset throughout the book.LauraLeeWasHere wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 11:20 Because of such a strange setting and ambiance I was uncomfortable from the start to the end. That got me wondering if anyone feels that it's a book they will want to read more than once. If I come across a book very well written I know it will at least get a second read from me but not with this one. I don't expect all stories to give me "warm fuzzies" but I think it will be a while before I dive into this one again. I wanted to know: " Did you enjoy this
book so much that you definitely will read it again at a later date? In spite of the uncomfortable feelings it produces?". L-L.
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Sending two year old Emmy to Shadowpain and what experiences she must have had there was uncomfortable for me. It just seemed unnecessarily cruel to do that to a child.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:20And to spend so much time there. I can't imagine what she endured and had to witness while theirFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:52It was uncomfortable to think of two year-old Emmy in Shadowpain.
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Although she came off as normal, I wouldn't be that quick to discount the scars she had from being in Shadowpain growing up. I think she was just exceptional at hiding the scars.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:22This is true, but she came off as a normal character. She was crafty and helpful. Snarky at times. She didn't seem to be deeply wounded. Not that shewasn't, but it definitely was hidden,Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:53I don't think she came out okay, it's just that her PoV was non-existent making it impossible to see the scars of Shadowpain.
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It was uncomfortable to see how they treated harmonic puppies, how they called harmonies mongrels, and how it was a death sentence in Echoland if you were a harmony.Jachike 1 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 09:29Yes. It was terrible. Makes me more grateful to be living in this dispensation.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:11The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
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Just the thought of the kind of cruelty they would show a two year old Emmy in Shadowpain made me extremely uncomfortable and filled with rage. For any human and especially parents, this is an uncomfortable thought.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:26Very sad indeed. Since echoes become fate dealers. I doubt she was tortured in quite the same manner, but I can't imagine them showing any kindness towards the infantFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 13:53I don't know if she came out okay, but it was definitely uncomfortable to think how the fate sealers might have tortured a two year old in Shadowpain.
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The glee with which the act was performed was uncomfortable. It was like how uncomfortable Fate Sealers treat torture and pain with such joy.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:34Oh jeez! Although a sad part of the book, I thought it was brief and drove the point homeFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:08The drowning of puppies was extremely uncomfortable, it felt like clubbing baby seals.ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 16:43 Child deaths and kidnapping are always uncomfortable subjects. I also agree with those who said the drowning of the puppies was disturbing.
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I think that was just pure hatred toward wolves in that instance. For some reason he really did not like that wolf! It was a good call moving her into her own spaceFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 23:27But the game Keeper's attitude towards Wolfèa made me uncomfortable every time Will had to leave her outside for the night.Kro92813 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 22:35Just like the animals. And better the gamekeeper made an example with a wolf pup than an actual baby. That would have been an even worse exampleFerdinand_otieno wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 17:11
The way mixed breed people were treated in Echoland was uncomfortable. They were branded mongrels, and hunted down to be slaughtered.
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It is derogatory and supposed to make you feel filthy. When talking about how it makes me uncomfortable I'd rather use the uncomfortable name. Harmonies are not treated poorly, but "mongrels" are.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 23:30I still prefer calling them harmonies...mongrels seems like a derogatory term meant as an insult.