Is Sex really necessary?

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Leen282 wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:42
Angatia wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:24
Kelyn wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 23:28 That was one of the problems I had with the book as well. Grant was on an expedition to find his uncle, but he took the time to 'consort' with the ladies? This just doesn't jive with me. It is a detriment to the book, I believe.
I beg to differ! As much as Grant is a normal human being with reproductive enzymes like any other, there wasn't much he could have done to prevent it. Its called 'the call of nature.'
I keep reading the multiple comments and opinions, I totally understand a lot of the different viewpoints but I personally also feel it is natural and happens more often than not when a group of people is together for a longer period of time.
When opposite sexes are kept together for some time the circumstances are automatically arranged in favour of such situations
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Giga51087 wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 04:17 Unfortunately I must say that the use and abuse of sex as a resource to enrich the plot ends up being exhausting.

A good book becomes a vulgar erotic novel by well-intentioned but poorly placed lines by an author who seeks to give more complexity to the story.

When sex, regardless of its level of exposure, is present, the book changes and its tone takes on more sentimental overtones, which in several cases are not necessary. They only hinder the main plot and generate a very funny feeling of shyness in the reader. This frustrates the writer's intent and generates an atmosphere of incommodity that can end in the abandonment of reading the book.
That is very true. When used unnecessarily, it can avert some of the audience
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It is an undeniable fact that the protagonist's expedition may be tiring and the introduction of sexual encounters may seem unnecessary and unwanted. However, the human body in a situation of danger is likely to interpret the flow of blood in the body and the release of hormones as sexual attraction. This leads to the chances of having sexual encounters not being totally out of the case according to science. Thus, even though some people may find this uncomfortable, sex scenes in these stressful situation appear to be a realistic reflection of how the human body works in.
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Wesley Friday wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 06:02 It is an undeniable fact that the protagonist's expedition may be tiring and the introduction of sexual encounters may seem unnecessary and unwanted. However, the human body in a situation of danger is likely to interpret the flow of blood in the body and the release of hormones as sexual attraction. This leads to the chances of having sexual encounters not being totally out of the case according to science. Thus, even though some people may find this uncomfortable, sex scenes in these stressful situation appear to be a realistic reflection of how the human body works in.
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Carennkemdiala wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 02:47 For me, sex is a natural occurrence and everyone would normally have urges, it’s now left for you as a person to decide to physically get involved sexually or not. So generally, I think it was just normal for Grant as a young guy to have sex even amidst the quest of finding his Uncle. The book is a good read.
Well expressed and a very practical point of view.
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Okay, this is a really good question, and one I have asked myself this very same question when I watch movies and read novels.

How do the characters find the time, energy, and what not to engage in sexual encounters when the world could literally be crashing around you? On one hand, I feel like it falls on the line of over-saturated romance, you know when you are watching a film and for no reason, the main character or side character winds up getting paired off with someone. It doesn't help the story, but it doesn't really help it either. I think the same happens with the sexual encounters, it sometimes makes it feel more adult, more mature, but the thing is, it only feels that way when there is the right context.

If you are going to have it in the story, then just like everything else, it needs to add something. It needs to hold a role, otherwise, why not write a Harlequin romance instead. At least then it would be expected.
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Sex is necessary and at the same time no necessary. It all depends on the spouses or a sex partner if you have a partner who loves sex them technically sex will be necessary.
In my own point of view sex is necessary only if you love it.
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I did find the scenes a bit unexpected but I think to leave them out would be to limit the three-dimensional nature of Grant's character. He felt more human after that encounter.
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Topsey wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:19 Although I agree that sex is not necessarily important for books to include, I don’t think the inclusion here is out of place. I think it demonstrates how one can still be deterred by our more baser/natural instinct, regardless of the various tasks at hand.
I absolutely agree with you! It is a baser instinct that can spring out of the strangest situations, and I think that was what the author was proving. I also believe it was an element that the author wanted to add because of the plants found during the expedition. Including it may not have propelled the story, but I don't think it was completely out of left field.
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TasiWin wrote: 12 Jul 2020, 22:51
B Creech wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 13:48
Nama Winnie wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 09:04

I agree with you. Books can be great without all that. But in this case I felt like the author was illustrating the effects of the drug and more of our baser needs as humans
I'm sure you are right! I just always have a difficult time with explicit material! :D
It is allowed @B Creech. The reader is allowed anything :)
I, on the orher hand, prefer a well written scene or nothingg at all.
I understand that! I guess my age is catching up with me! :icon-lol:
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Elvis Best wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 00:53 In my opinion, the sex scenes were a distraction from what was actually happening. I found it shocking that author decided to add sex scenes. It adds up to why I felt the book dragged on for a bit too long.
I totally agree with this. The sex scenes were not necessary.
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I think that just like movies sometimes sexual content is added to increase the entertainment value of the piece rather than adding to the overall flow of the story. I think that sexual content can be used in novels, but it needs to be done with care. Grant is a young man and I think that the author went with that mindset in including those scenes.
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I don't think sex was a necessary add in this book. It just doesn't mesh well with the general topic/theme.
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Sex is necessary, in as much as the book is fiction the reader still imagines a lot of the scenes and experiences some parts of the book through imagination. Sex is a part of us. I do not see any harm in it being included.
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Sushan wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 05:50
Angatia wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:24
Kelyn wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 23:28 That was one of the problems I had with the book as well. Grant was on an expedition to find his uncle, but he took the time to 'consort' with the ladies? This just doesn't jive with me. It is a detriment to the book, I believe.
I beg to differ! As much as Grant is a normal human being with reproductive enzymes like any other, there wasn't much he could have done to prevent it. Its called 'the call of nature.'
Yes, the author has depicted it in that way, giving all the fault to the environmental facts
I have to stick to my original comment. It's much like in today's society when girls are scolded for "not covering up" instead of teaching the boys to control that "natural reproductive instinct." The temptations are there, but one has the ability to make a conscious decision whether or not to submit to them.
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