Science and Technology in Voulhire
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Re: Science and Technology in Voulhire
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I agree. I think that in a different society, the requirements would differ so we wouldn't always end up with the same things built in the end. Similarly to our current world in which some part have access to certain advancements that other parts do not, and vice versa. Overall, I think it's within reason that only some parts of technology were presentMaconstewart wrote: ↑12 Oct 2020, 22:34 I believe it is important to keep in mind that this is a different world than ours. Their technology is not going go progress in the same manner. Technologies are developed out of the needs of a society. There is also the question of materials available. You also have to consider if the creators of technology have freedom to just make advancemants, or are they held back by a government or ruler. To compare this imaginative world of Voulhire to our world is like comparing apples to oranges.
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Also, consider that this world has magic. Necessity is the mother of invention and with magic, there are likely a lot fewer and different necessities than in our world.
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I agree with you in part. I do believe that having magic adds a level of complication to our own history of technology and science and so they are not directly comparable. And what you said about necessity being “the mother of invention” is absolutely true, but using that same statement, it follows that we would see the invention of some of these things where magic clearly doesn’t cover the necessity. Light bulbs for instance. Clearly they have the capability or necessary ingredients for making light bulbs and having the idea for them, and we don’t see magic coming up with any better solutions for lighting as far as I can see, so why are we still relying on torches?EReid wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 11:38 I don't think you can compare different world's development in technology to our own world. A lot of our technology was invented piece by piece by different people. Another world might not have those people.
Also, consider that this world has magic. Necessity is the mother of invention and with magic, there are likely a lot fewer and different necessities than in our world.
I guess that’s what I’m trying to get at with this post. Does the author do a good job of using necessity as the mother of invention while balancing magic and technology? I don’t see the logic in many of the inclusions or exclusions of these types of things.
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So picture it as fantasy. The world is more imaginative than factual and regardless of the fact that some things correlate with actual history, the environment should be seen as a new one.
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I see where you’re coming from, and you make a good point. I guess I just always felt that fantasy should still have an undercurrent of logic even if it doesn’t always fit perfectly with the magic and creatures and imagination. Because even in a fantasy world, there still have to be logical rules and laws which are followed (not necessarily political, these could be natural) else all we would see is chaos.Folushour wrote: ↑24 Dec 2020, 08:13 I don't think the writer followed the way the world developed technology. He probably just picked some things in history and included them while neglecting other things that existed during that period
So picture it as fantasy. The world is more imaginative than factual and regardless of the fact that some things correlate with actual history, the environment should be seen as a new one.
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I try not to associate it with our own current timeline.
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Many readers also commented about the untimely existence of some things given that it appeared to the readers that the setting was set in later days, presumably during the Medieval times. I think Matthew was aware of this, so I believe that his book's setting is intentionally incorporated with varying stages of our world's timeline. However, I prefer that he will construct the setting based on one period only.engarl wrote: ↑12 Oct 2020, 12:53 I'm in the middle of reading the book now and wanted to know what everybody thought about the technology in Voulhire. I know this book explores the relationship between magic and science, but it seems to me that some of the technology lacks continuity. For example, it appears that steam engines have been in use for some time, but I don't see any evidence of early car prototypes, or even of steamboats. And the people in Voulhire use gas lamps and torches, which suggests there are no lightbulbs yet, but in our world, lightbulbs were invented shortly after heated plumbing, which Voulhire does have.
So, do you think that the advancement of science and technology is as developed in this book as the magic appears to be?
And if so, what age in our own history have you compared it to in your own reading? It will help me to visualize the setting much better!