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Pretty giftee wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 17:18 Taking full responsibility for one's life can help reduce external stress that comes with living your life on another person's rules.
I clearly understand your perspective. I also fully agree, Kinrys states that individuals should take responsibility of their flaws. Living life under another person's dogma is a time bomb for stress and anxiety disorders.
Discipline is the bridge between goals and accomplishment.
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mmm17 wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 19:46 I agree with this idea. Accepting your responsibility in your healing process is an important and necessary step, in my opinion.
You are right. Accepting that you have a problem is the first part of taking responsibility. Through acceptance, it then gets easier to implement the remedies highlighted by Kinrys.
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Rebeccachurch08 wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 20:45 I have definitely done this. I have a "chemical imbalance" causing stress, anxiety, and anger. When I realize I am acting a certain way that is abnormal to how I usually am, I force myself to figure out a way to change it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm glad that you've found a remedy that you can try. Not all remedies given by Gustavo can work on you. It's therefore advisable to stick to what works. Nevertheless, it's okay to keep trying and taking responsibility whenever required.
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Beckygithui1994 wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 05:16 Taking responsibility foe your life is a very worthy goal. It is an aid to managing stress because when you know the decisions you make, why you make them, and the areas of your life that need improvement, triggers for stress are easily managed.
From personal experience, I've discovered it's also effective to always have a goal in mind. Goals will push you to be responsible and mindful of your dealings.
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mpsmaster wrote: 17 Aug 2020, 18:27
Rebeccachurch08 wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 20:45 I have definitely done this. I have a "chemical imbalance" causing stress, anxiety, and anger. When I realize I am acting a certain way that is abnormal to how I usually am, I force myself to figure out a way to change it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
That's really great of you! Meny people have good reasons to not take reaponsibility: I'm an addicted, I'm a cronic depressive, and I'm a lot of things. I don't mean that is easy, or no help is needed, but when you decide that you will be what you want, and take responsibility for it, great things happen!
The moment we choose to stand for what is right, responsibility kicks in. It's always a tough decision that's met with resistance and tough times. But eventually the best comes out of it.
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Howlan wrote: 18 Aug 2020, 02:27
Slater678 wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 02:38 I think it means the subject of avoiding anxiety and seeking balance is a personal responsibility and can easily be achieved if one has the necessary knowledge and motivation to do it.
Taking responsibility for your personal actions can help have a better idea about yourself and in cases of stress, you can help identify your stressful behavior and understand your stressor. It can aid in managing your stress.
I also agree that taking responsibility is required when addressing stress and anxiety. Some people may find it hard to take full responsibility, that's why it's also advisable to have a confidant with whom you can share your problems when they get out of hand.
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Howlan wrote: 18 Aug 2020, 02:28
Pretty giftee wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 17:18 Taking full responsibility for one's life can help reduce external stress that comes with living your life on another person's rules.
Yes, that is definitely true. Taking responsibility can be a great way to deal with your actions and reduce stress. It is beneficial in understanding your actions and dealing with problems better.
It takes a lot of patience to reach to such a level. Personal experience and skills can play a huge part in how responsible an individual is.
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itsrachna wrote: 18 Aug 2020, 02:47 Taking full responsibility of yourself is a difficult task but it is worth it. You come across your vulnerabilities , weaknesses which ultimately make you strongest.
The beauty of taking full responsibility for yourself is the end result of feeling relaxed and accomplished.
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rahilshajahan wrote: 18 Aug 2020, 09:33
mpsmaster wrote: 09 Aug 2020, 05:50 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Taking full responsibility for decisions and obligations is a goal everyone
> should have. It narrows down to understanding your weaknesses, learning
> from your mistakes, and moving on when required. I'm always taking full
> responsibility for my actions. It's a sure way to stay out of trouble.

Very interesting your words. One thing you said called my attention in particular: the importance of understanding your weaknesses. I don’t recall any emphasis on this in the book, but I do think that many people hide from themselves their weaknesses, what creates a lot of internal pressure. I had an aunt, for example, that pretend living a life without problems, one day she just exploded and had a 24 hours amnesia.
What do you think about this?
That's understandable. When you comfort bubble bursts, and you aren't prepared to face your weaknesses, it can lead to tragic consequences. I'm sorry for your aunt.
I think it's fatal to keep piling up your problems, as given by your example, it reaches to a point of no return. It's such levels that contribute to suicide and chronic depression.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 21:04
mpsmaster wrote: 15 Aug 2020, 20:32 Tonika632 wrote:
> That is actually my goal, but it is very hard to reach it. Usually,
> surrounding people do not take part, and that is the problem.

Very true! Another question is in line: how to be responsible when no one else around me is? This is very important since is a situation that we will face many times in life. Parents, for example, how many times they see negligent parents around them? But they have to be firm in their resolve.
Even though it may be okay to correct others if you notice a negligence in their responsibility, it's not advisable to approach everyone. We all have different ways to deal with stress and anxiety. If we however choose to do so, it should be done with caution.
Yes, as people all have different mindsets and also have different situations so something that you think is better might actually not be better for the other person. It is essential not to push others who are in stress just give them a suggestion.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 21:06
mpsmaster wrote: 15 Aug 2020, 20:34 Anna Dougherty wrote:
> Taking full responsibility for your life is a good decision, although it
> can be stressful sometimes.

I think that's why we need the help of the other methods. I believe that when we take full responsibility our lives became simple, but it's a long way there.
Taking full responsibility is a daunting task that requires patience and understanding.
Yes, that actually shapes up your personality in how you act under pressure and defines who you are. People push themselves too far trying to be responsible for everything, but that in the end not a way to be effecive but rather builds up stress instead.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 21:09
mpsmaster wrote: 15 Aug 2020, 20:37 Kevivas03 wrote:
> I agree 100 % because if you do not take responsiblity who will? The
> anxities we face are ultimately ours to deal with arent they? I have
> definitely applied this in my own life yes, no matter what life throws at
> me whether a death or disappointment I deal with it accodingly without
> letting that issue rule my life!

Beautful! Certainly death is one of the major stressors that everyone had or will have to face. The ones who delt with that and grew with the experience have jewls of wisdom and comfort to share.
Indeed, every experience carries with it a lesson. However, being in the moment and connecting with that situation is what builds confidence and resilience.
True. It is the experience we gain from a situation that matters. Many people can move toward success and be demotivated at the hurdles but the experience gained from those hurdles are what matters the most as it shapes up the person you will become.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 21:11
Howlan wrote: 15 Aug 2020, 23:23 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Charity Damaris wrote:
> > The author is right. Better evaluation of ones weaknesses and coming up
> > with ways of dealing with them is being responsible.After responsibility
> > comes relaxation because one is sure of what the consequences will be.
>
> Wow, don't you find it resourceful?
> Gustavo shares this skill in a straightforward approach. And yes, you become
> cautioned when you take responsibility for current and past flaws.

It is really a resourceful idea to overcome the odds. Evaluating yourself to understand what ideas are stressful to you is a great way to reduce stress. It is taking responsibility for these things that help you.
In addition, part of taking responsibility is knowing when it's okay to share a problem and when it's okay to deal with it alone.
Certainly, taking responsibility is what defines how resourceful you are. It is up to you if the responsibilities lined up for you is something you can actually beneft from or simply negative stress.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 21:15
Howlan wrote: 15 Aug 2020, 23:24 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Tonika632 wrote:
> > That is actually my goal, but it is very hard to reach it. Usually,
> > surrounding people do not take part, and that is the problem.
> I understand your concern. But as highlighted in this book, stress and anxiety affect
> an individual. For that reason, it's a personal responsibility to find help. If you
> find a certain group is not responsive, try another one or a different approach.

Yes, but it should not a stressful practice. Take your time and find things you are comfortable doing then build on those things to keep your mind calm and contrate on your goal.

Sure, if you find one workable remedy after trying different methods that Kinrys has given, you should continuously practice it. But as you gradually progress it should be clear that the method has more pros to cons.
Yes, if you are able to integrate a natural remedy in your lifestyle then, it will provide much experience to you when you feel mild anxiety as you will be able to turn that stress into something productive.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 21:17
Slater678 wrote: 16 Aug 2020, 02:38 I think it means the subject of avoiding anxiety and seeking balance is a personal responsibility and can easily be achieved if one has the necessary knowledge and motivation to do it.
By reading such resourceful books like this one by Gustavo, it expounds your mind to numerous ways of coping with stress and anxiety. In doing so, your steps to taking responsibility are easier. It's in that way that you are able to relax.
Yes, this book has had great practical expertise regarding dealing with anxiety and stress which is what I expect from a book dealing with stress remedies. The author lists various kinds of remedies to cater to each individual. Taking responsibility for your actions is something that the book believes helps you in narrowing out your stressor and eliminating it.
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